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I have had to close the forum to new members. Registration is shut. I'm sorry for it - but I can no longer vouch for who comes through the door.
You may also find that certain older topics are no longer where you left them. I have, with great reluctance, removed a small number of threads and posts from this forum. I did so at the written request of a firm of solicitors acting for the landowner, who hold that the material touched on matters they would prefer were not aired in public.
I have complied, because I am one man and they are not. I want it set down plainly, here, that I did so under protest, and that I do not accept the grounds. Nothing removed was untrue. Nothing removed was anyone's business to suppress.
But I will not delete this board. What is left here stays, and you may read it for as long as I can keep the lights on. I have locked the doors; I have not burned the house. I have kept copies of everything. I would ask, gently, that those of you who hold anything of your own do the same.
E. Selwood
Wansdyke - who built it and why?
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young_jordan
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Wansdyke - who built it and why?
Hi everyone, im doing a project for school on local history and ive picked Wansdyke because its right near us and nobody at school had even heard of it. Problem is every website says something different. Who actually built it and why? Was it the Romans or after? Any help appreciated, it has to be in for half term. Thanks!
wansdyke got me an A, cheers all
now doing history at college
Welcome, and a good choice; it is the great enigma of this county, and you will get more honest disagreement here than from any website. The short answer is that nobody knows for certain, which is itself worth putting in your project. What we can say: it is post-Roman, almost certainly; an earthwork bank and ditch running for miles along the downs, the ditch on the north side. That tells us it was built by people to the south, looking north, expecting trouble from that direction. The name is Old English, Wodnes dic, Woden's dyke, which means the Saxons who named it did not know who built it either, and ascribed it to a god. That alone should tell you how old it already seemed to them.
http://www.wansdyke21.org.uk/wansdyke/w ... anmaps.htm
http://www.wansdyke21.org.uk/wansdyke/w ... anmaps.htm
We retrieve what we can from the teeth of time. (after J. Aubrey)
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WiltsMuseum_Col
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Selwood has it right. The current thinking, for your project, Jordan: likely fifth or sixth century, the troubled period after the Romans left, when British kingdoms were defending against Saxon expansion from the Thames valley. East Wansdyke, the stretch on the Marlborough downs, is the best preserved; West Wansdyke is more argued over. Cite it as a frontier work of the sub-Roman period and you will be on safe ground, but do say the dating is not settled. Your teacher will be impressed that you know it is not settled.
Record it, or it never happened.
I will be the awkward one, as ever. Parts of what gets mapped as Wansdyke reuse the line of the Roman road, and parts may be older boundary than people allow. Do not let anyone tell you it is one thing built in one go. Jordan, if you can get up onto it, walk a stretch, stand in the ditch and look north as Selwood says. A frontier makes sense to the body in a way it never does on a page.
Everything has a grid reference, if you look hard enough.
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Aldbourne_Annie
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And for a splash of colour for the project, Jordan: the old story is that the Devil dug Wansdyke in a single night, which is what country people always said of anything too big to have been made by ordinary men. The same is said of the Devils Dyke and a dozen others up and down the land. It tells you nothing about who built it and everything about how it felt to those who came after, that it could only have been the work of a giant or the Devil. Good luck with the marks, dear.
Ask me about the old stories, Ive got hundreds 
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young_jordan
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young_jordan
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